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melnato



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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 5:24 am    Post subject: 737NatCrea: Airborne! Reply with quote

This might seem a bit weird....and crazy Smile
Most people have seen my 737 and admired it, a few have flown it.
Although it was nearing completion, I was never happy with some approaches to problems, engineering and wiring...
so I have stripped her down and am rebuilding from the ground up with lots of new knowledge and a blend of new FDS parts and Real.

Thanks to PC, SC and Axel for helping me with scrounging the world for bits and pieces like real TQ,
column connector, tiller assembly, locking toggles, indicators and some Korry's.
PM has been laid to rest and Sim-Avioncs will be driving the new Sim.

I have started with the OH as that needed help most urgently. I wont show you the before shots ( Shocked ), but here are some early progress shots.

If you look carefully you'll see a blend of FDS Panels/AN1 and Real toggles/Korry







If anyone's interested, I might update this thread as I go...
(I miss flying already!!!)

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DaveA330



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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 7:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Nat,

Not weird or crazy in my opinion. Probably because I am re-building also.
Great job with the wiring.

Please keep us posted.

Dave
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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Nat,

I love your wiring idea. Will make for easy removal of a panel if maintenance is needed.

I am at the same stage essentially having just assembled my FDS fwd overhead and awaiting arrival of the aft ovhd along with the new high capacity sys board.

If you are doing specific wiring groupings would you mind documenting them? That would make for a nice headstart on the wiring. I am also using Sim-Avionics.

Will you be at the open house?

Regards,
Scott Wegner
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melnato



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PostPosted: Sun May 23, 2010 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Scott and Dave,

Yes I will be at the Open House(31hrs total flight time I think).
Anyone even remotely close should be there!

With the newer SYS cards you dont have to worry about matching same color LED's to the outputs.
So I basically wired all outputs to one row and inputs to the other row on the D-Sub connector.
When you do have more than 8 inputs/ouputs in one panel you will have to group
them together with their respective ground/earth, but theres no real need
to follow any plan.

It is a little over the top, but I made such a mess of my first OH, I was super cautious 2nd time around.

Nat
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 7:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, a lot of work, this might be usefull to the beginers so they have an extra idea of wiring.

By the way, where could i get the real toggles??

thanks
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melnato



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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 9:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not much to see...anti-screen shots actually Smile
I tore down old curved screen...kinda hurt but liberating LOL

Nat

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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 11:20 pm    Post subject: Real Parts/FDS Panels and Hardware Reply with quote

Adding to what Nat is showing here is Matt Ford's use of real components and the FDS IBL series panels.
Matt is one of the original "Builders" going back over ten years now.
I think Nat is well on his way to achieving the same approach.
Real parts are very expensive as you can imagine. We have looked at stocking more of them but outside of our pro customers I am not sure people will take too kindly to the pricing. Real Parts = Real Prices...
Cool on you Nat to dig around.. Watching here as well Smile
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PostPosted: Mon May 24, 2010 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This link will take you right to Matt's fine work.



http://web.me.com/mattford1/Site/Avionics_Modules.html#3
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PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 12:54 am    Post subject: Re: Real Parts/FDS Panels and Hardware Reply with quote

pcos wrote:
Real Parts = Real Prices...


One of these days I have a make a drive up to see Matt's awsome Xplane sim. What a setup!



Shows Nat's commitment that is for sure.

Matt
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melnato



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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2010 9:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some viewers may find the following scenes distressing...the tear down continues... Smile

Thanks to Axel ( Twisted Evil ) for finding me a cross-over tube, I'm re-doing the flight controls...
About time anyway, so its ground zero time

















My poor kids thought they got their dad "back"...sorry son Wink
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N737AG



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh Nat, these last pictures really hurt.

All the best with your re-build. Let me know if I can help. My offer as test co-pilot still stands.


Axel
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 5:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Axel...nothing less than the Captains seat is reserved for you Smile

Nat
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melnato



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 5:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finally managed to string together a few days on the Sim.
OH modules slowly coming together....

New base and control column linkages/centering...squeak free.
(not much to see...sorry)

New 8m continous screen, still in grey primer but good enough to set-up visuals...once and for all.

Nat






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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nat, you've done it again. I am getting more convinced than ever, that this is the way to get to a perfect visual system. Every picture you post looks better .... I'm sold

Thanks or the post
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Ivar Hestnes



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PostPosted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks good Nat.

Cant wait to see something nice on the screen Smile
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