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pcos
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 19, 2019 6:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Folks,
We have not completed our investigation of this new version.
Had we been made aware before the release we could have looked sooner. Not being aware of this until the release means we need to add this to our list of items to work on.
It would be ideal for folks to give us a chance to review. We do have a lot of things on the go here. No need to sound alarms at this point.
FDS is not known for “bailing” on its customers.
Peter
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 20, 2019 5:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

While you guys are reviewing the NGXu could you potentially look at the 747 as well. Kill two birds with one stone? If you need the SDK for that I can send that as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hogdriver wrote:
Yes Thanks Fabian, copied those and the are perfect for the CDU. And yes if you start with the NGX and then switch to the NGXu the hardware will get response from the SIM, partly. The CDU is great except the "EXEC" light will not light up when prompted, it still works but just light receiving the prompt.


Regarding the CDU its interesting that several of you have found that the graphics settings Fabian posted work for you perfectly. For me they are really off.
What resolution are you running the CDU screens at out of interest?
Mine unit is also a V2 model with HDMI which I guess could make a difference. I went through this with the NGX and after an evening messing about I found the settings that worked exactly for me, but on the NGXu they are no where near. I totally realise that the software is not updated as yet, but I assume like many of us I wanted to have a look.. Smile The MCP is definitely going to be await for the new software build.. !

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 21, 2019 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Andy764 wrote:
Hogdriver wrote:
Yes Thanks Fabian, copied those and the are perfect for the CDU. And yes if you start with the NGX and then switch to the NGXu the hardware will get response from the SIM, partly. The CDU is great except the "EXEC" light will not light up when prompted, it still works but just light receiving the prompt.


Regarding the CDU its interesting that several of you have found that the graphics settings Fabian posted work for you perfectly. For me they are really off.
What resolution are you running the CDU screens at out of interest?
Mine unit is also a V2 model with HDMI which I guess could make a difference. I went through this with the NGX and after an evening messing about I found the settings that worked exactly for me, but on the NGXu they are no where near. I totally realise that the software is not updated as yet, but I assume like many of us I wanted to have a look.. Smile The MCP is definitely going to be await for the new software build.. !

Andy

Andy, I have the V2 model as well but it is the 747 body but I do not think that matters. I am on 800 x 600. My settings in the NGXu and 777 are as follows and I think they are perfect.

NGXu - (-65,-108,530,1720)

777 - (-75,-120,550,1620)
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 22, 2019 12:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peter,
Absolutely, Take your time, this is not a problem with me or the other people I believe. Yes I believe Ya'll were blind sided by this as well. No rush get to it when you can. I'm a firm believer of "emptying the plate before you put more on" I've never felt ya'll ever "bailed" on me nor do I expect you too. Please don't take us making stab at this as the thought of us giving up on you or FDS.

Look forward to a fix whenever you get there, not a rush at all. Have a wonderful day and great holidays to you and the FDS family. If there is anything any of us can do to help please do not hesitate to ask. I for one am here for you as you have always been here for us.
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 14, 2019 11:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thankyou very much Tim, Your settings are bang on with my unit. Very much appreciated. Smile

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PostPosted: Sun Dec 15, 2019 12:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd just like to add some info here regarding the FDS Glare MCP/EFIS Hardware and running it with the PMDG NGXu.

So far the main problem I have is that the 7 Segment Displays on the MCP remain blank. This is when running the MCP/EFIS with Simconnect (FDS to PDMG Hardware Interface V 2.0) and the NGXu, a similar issue to the OP.

As far as I have tested, the EFIS works fine. Though I haven't done in-depth tests, the encoders and switches on the MCP seem to work ok with the NGXu sim. A push of a switch or a turn of an encoder is reflected correctly in the NGXu VC and the aircraft does as commanded. The 7-Segments on the hardware remain blank however.

When I run Simconnect it tells me I have a Jetmax 737 MCP. I'll admit it's older harwdare from 2013.

I noticed that when any hardware encoders are turned, there are random numerals which appear in the 7 segment displays but they don't reflect anything in the sim VC (Course, Heading, etc). They disappear as soon as the physical rotation is stopped

When trying the 'Test All Outputs' in Simconnect, the entire hardware MCP LED and Segment Displays all illuminate -ON- correctly.

I also have the same issue as bob43 above, in Simconnect the indication 'DC Power: Off' does not change state.

Unfortunately I do not have the earlier P3D NGX to try that work around.

Just some info, (may help someone!) I understand it's on FDS's list.

Derek
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looks like the following FMC items dont work with the NGXU, as best I can tell

Key Backlights
Messages
Execute Key

looking forward to using this with the NGXU such a great piece of hardware, merry Christmas all

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 30, 2019 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jetman67 wrote:
Looks like the following FMC items dont work with the NGXU, as best I can tell

Key Backlights
Messages
Execute Key

looking forward to using this with the NGXU such a great piece of hardware, merry Christmas all

Wayne

Officially it is not supported in the Controller 2.0 they are looking into adding it when they have time is what we were told.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just received the FDS 737 CDU MkII and have started messing with the unit. I know the NGXu is not formally supported, but has anyone found starting with the NGX is no longer necessary? Per the findings in this forum, I started with the NGX, then switched to the NGXu. All is well (except for the known, couple small issues). Then I got the great idea that if this seems to linked to the "DC Power" default of the NGXu, why not try just cycling the battery. All is well. Then I just tried loading straight to the NGXu (fresh P3D start, the FDS Controller stayed open the whole time). And everything on the CDU seems to work as expected.

Perhaps PMDG changes something in one of their updates? Or maybe not restarting the FDS controller was the trick?

Great unit, looking forward to the NGXu formally supported.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 11, 2020 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Its a great unit isnt it, i have had not had such luck getting it to fully function but will take another look when i get home
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 1:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

No this didn't work for me in fact made no difference, you are right I no longer need to load up the NGX first but I still am getting no exec button messages etc even after cycling the battery and starting P3D again I do see the DC on for the FDS controller software but when I go into the NGXU I see some of the keys randomly flickering but the said items don't function. Its usable this way until the NGXU is added to the controller software

Thanks
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi ESzczesniak and Jetman67

By 'cycling the battery', do you mean the Aircraft Battery on the NGXu Overhead or the physical DC supply to CDU hardware?

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi derekj

I tried the battery and standby power then restarted p3d, i noted dc on was on on the fds controller but still same for me
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 12, 2020 6:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Derekg wrote:
Hi ESzczesniak and Jetman67

By 'cycling the battery', do you mean the Aircraft Battery on the NGXu Overhead or the physical DC supply to CDU hardware?

Derek


I meant the overhead battery on the NGXu. It seemed to be working yesterday, but today I had to start with the NGX.

At no point in this has the execute lights or backlights worked with the NGXu for me. I accept this as a short coming until the NGXu is officially supported. I presume the offsets for those functions changed in the SDK and need to updated.

The execute button light is the only real shortcoming to me, and I can live with this for everything else the CDU brings.
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